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hello to everyone from around the world
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hello to everyone from around the world
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and thank you for joining us uh today
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and thank you for joining us uh today
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this is the first of a series that we
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this is the first of a series that we
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have at CED entitled the
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Hamas uh attack and its impact on uh the
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Hamas uh attack and its impact on uh the
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region uh before we begin uh I'd like to
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region uh before we begin uh I'd like to
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take a moment to thank the UCL
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take a moment to thank the UCL
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Department of political science for
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Department of political science for
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co-sponsoring our discussion today as
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co-sponsoring our discussion today as
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well as the UCI International Institute
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well as the UCI International Institute
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for helping to promote the this vital
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for helping to promote the this vital
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Round Round Table series before the
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event begins please note the following
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event begins please note the following
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important information what uh which I
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important information what uh which I
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will go uh quickly uh on so we can start
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will go uh quickly uh on so we can start
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number one while you can see us we
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number one while you can see us we
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cannot see or hear you you should know
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that we are recording the presentation
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you are joining us using Zoom Zoom
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please note the chat window at the
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bottom of the screen we will share
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here however you will not be able to add
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here however you will not be able to add
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questions for our speakers please uh
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type them in the Q&A window also at the
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type them in the Q&A window also at the
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bottom of your screen you can ask one or
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bottom of your screen you can ask one or
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both of our speakers be sure to include
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your name in your country and or
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announced aloud along with your question
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announced aloud along with your question
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only the cat team will be able to see
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your questions in some cases we will
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your questions in some cases we will
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uh there I uh want to begin by
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uh there I uh want to begin by
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introducing uh two two speakers both of
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introducing uh two two speakers both of
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whom uh I just think are fantastic and
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whom uh I just think are fantastic and
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they are two of the most important
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people at the kind of Crisis we are
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people at the kind of Crisis we are
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having now in the world and I just can't
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having now in the world and I just can't
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thank them enough for having uh uh
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thank them enough for having uh uh
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joined us so we're going to be quick uh
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joined us so we're going to be quick uh
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so we get to as many uh uh uh questions
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so we get to as many uh uh uh questions
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and answers uh as we can in this limited
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and answers uh as we can in this limited
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time we have Aaron David Miller is uh
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time we have Aaron David Miller is uh
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has all sorts of uh positions we love
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has all sorts of uh positions we love
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watching him wife and I love watching
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watching him wife and I love watching
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him on uh TV he's a senior fellow at the
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Peace he's always asking me to watch
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some of his material he has written five
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some of his material he has written five
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books uh he of course between 1978 and
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books uh he of course between 1978 and
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a historian he's got loads and loads of
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a historian he's got loads and loads of
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Articles he's uh as I say on TV Etc uh
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Articles he's uh as I say on TV Etc uh
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all the time Robin Wright is uh
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all the time Robin Wright is uh
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certainly one of the top authors about
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certainly one of the top authors about
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the kind of issues we're facing uh
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the kind of issues we're facing uh
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seeing in the country she's uh at the
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seeing in the country she's uh at the
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New Yorker she's a senior fellow at the
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New Yorker she's a senior fellow at the
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US Institute of Peace and the wood
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US Institute of Peace and the wood
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Wilson Center more she's been reported
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Wilson Center more she's been reported
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140 uh uh countries for the New Yorker
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140 uh uh countries for the New Yorker
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uh so I just want to say again two of
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uh so I just want to say again two of
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you thank you so much for joining us it
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you thank you so much for joining us it
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means so much to us so much to me and
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means so much to us so much to me and
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we're g to start with Aaron David
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we're g to start with Aaron David
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Miller Steve thanks so much it's really
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Miller Steve thanks so much it's really
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an honor to be here with you and and
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an honor to be here with you and and
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um uh who grew up in an arbor uh we
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um uh who grew up in an arbor uh we
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share a similar uh love affair with the
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share a similar uh love affair with the
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Wolverines Robin is one of the most
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Wolverines Robin is one of the most
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talented journalists and analysts that I
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talented journalists and analysts that I
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know and U it's always wonderful to to
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know and U it's always wonderful to to
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be with her I I I was going to just
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be with her I I I was going to just
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start Steve with three brief
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start Steve with three brief
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comments um not necessarily on the
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comments um not necessarily on the
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crisis itself but three sort of comments
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crisis itself but three sort of comments
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that have helped me these last several
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that have helped me these last several
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weeks uh sort of look at this and
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weeks uh sort of look at this and
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process it number one is humility what
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process it number one is humility what
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we know about this crisis un unfolding
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we know about this crisis un unfolding
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looming Israeli ground campaign promised
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what we're watching is opaque and really
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what we're watching is opaque and really
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harmful at times but it runs rampant now
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judgment on our analysis and restraint
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empirical data that's Point 101 number
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empirical data that's Point 101 number
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brutality at the same
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time those Horrors cannot and should not
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time those Horrors cannot and should not
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prevent us from
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understanding um both from the
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understanding um both from the
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perspective of our hearts and our minds
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perspective of our hearts and our minds
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suffering and the deaths of thousands of
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suffering and the deaths of thousands of
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Palestinians as a consequence of Israeli
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Palestinians as a consequence of Israeli
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strikes in an effort to strike back at
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strikes in an effort to strike back at
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Hamas as secretary blinkin has said
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Hamas as secretary blinkin has said
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there's no hierarchy when it comes to
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there's no hierarchy when it comes to
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the deaths of civilians in war be they
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the deaths of civilians in war be they
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Israelis or Palestinians and finally
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Israelis or Palestinians and finally
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just a note on Hope and history on
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just a note on Hope and history on
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October 6 1973 I was in Jerusalem and
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October 6 1973 I was in Jerusalem and
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watched an Israeli Society traumatized
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watched an Israeli Society traumatized
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October 1973 yum award and yet within
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October 1973 yum award and yet within
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six years of that trauma and the largest
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six years of that trauma and the largest
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intelligence failure to date uh that
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intelligence failure to date uh that
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trauma would turn to Hope with the
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trauma would turn to Hope with the
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signing of an Egyptian Israeli Peace Tre
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signing of an Egyptian Israeli Peace Tre
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which still endures however imperfect it
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which still endures however imperfect it
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may be 20 years later I watched on the
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may be 20 years later I watched on the
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White House lawn as President Clinton
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White House lawn as President Clinton
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Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and poo
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Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and poo
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chairman Yas arot signed the oso
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chairman Yas arot signed the oso
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we really cannot see what's in front of
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we really cannot see what's in front of
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us every breakthrough in the Arab
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us every breakthrough in the Arab
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Israeli conflict Zone I will not include
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Israeli conflict Zone I will not include
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the Abraham Accords because they are not
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the Abraham Accords because they are not
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what I would describe as a conflict Zone
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what I would describe as a conflict Zone
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agreement but everyone in the conflict
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agreement but everyone in the conflict
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and War whether it was the 73 War which
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and War whether it was the 73 War which
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produced SED Do's initiative whether it
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produced SED Do's initiative whether it
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was Baker's Madrid peace conference
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was Baker's Madrid peace conference
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which was driven in large part by
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which was driven in large part by
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saddam's invasion of Kuwait and the Bush
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saddam's invasion of Kuwait and the Bush
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41 administration's efforts to push him
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41 administration's efforts to push him
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out of Kuwait or or the oselot the
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out of Kuwait or or the oselot the
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failed ocel process and the successful
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Israeli Jordanian peace treaty which
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were driven essentially by the first
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were driven essentially by the first
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diplomatic process the Arc of History
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diplomatic process the Arc of History
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bends in very unpredictable ways and
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bends in very unpredictable ways and
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maybe something of value will come out
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maybe something of value will come out
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of this crisis
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uh but one thing is is clear clearly
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uh but one thing is is clear clearly
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evident hoping isn't
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evident hoping isn't
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enough uh if you want to bend the Arc of
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enough uh if you want to bend the Arc of
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in an effort to make sure it's bent in
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in an effort to make sure it's bent in
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direction uh Robin do you have any any
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direction uh Robin do you have any any
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uh anything else to say just as we
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uh anything else to say just as we
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start Erin's covered a lot uh and I'm
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start Erin's covered a lot uh and I'm
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always honored to to be on with Aon we
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always honored to to be on with Aon we
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our lives have cross intersected in any
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our lives have cross intersected in any
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number of ways um uh traveling with
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number of ways um uh traveling with
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secretaries of State uh being on the
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secretaries of State uh being on the
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same campus as students at gobl Michigan
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same campus as students at gobl Michigan
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um so and and we've shared uh positions
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um so and and we've shared uh positions
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at at think tanks as well um and we
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at at think tanks as well um and we
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agree on on a lot I think what I'd
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agree on on a lot I think what I'd
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probably do is I also covered I've
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probably do is I also covered I've
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covered this tragedy in the Middle East
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covered this tragedy in the Middle East
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for 50 years I landed in Beirut on
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for 50 years I landed in Beirut on
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October 6 1973 and I remember being at
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October 6 1973 and I remember being at
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the airport uh in Beirut in the transit
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the airport uh in Beirut in the transit
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Lounge I was actually on my way to Iran
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Lounge I was actually on my way to Iran
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and a woman whispered to me very
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and a woman whispered to me very
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anxiously the Egyptians have just
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anxiously the Egyptians have just
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crossed the Suez Canal um what we've
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crossed the Suez Canal um what we've
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really seen play out is the evolution of
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really seen play out is the evolution of
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a type of warfare that's important to
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a type of warfare that's important to
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understand uh between 1948 and 1973
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understand uh between 1948 and 1973
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Israel went through through four
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Israel went through through four
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conventional Wars but every war in the
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conventional Wars but every war in the
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half century since then has pitted
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half century since then has pitted
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Israel against a non-state actor be it
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Israel against a non-state actor be it
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the Palestinian Liberation Organization
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the Palestinian Liberation Organization
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has bull
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has bull
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Hamas um Hezbollah again Hamas again and
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Hamas um Hezbollah again Hamas again and
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it's very under important I think to
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it's very under important I think to
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understand the pattern of warfare
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understand the pattern of warfare
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because it is much harder to fight a
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because it is much harder to fight a
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non-state actor to fight a militia than
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non-state actor to fight a militia than
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it is to fight a state where you know
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it is to fight a state where you know
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what the Diplomatic address is what the
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what the Diplomatic address is what the
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potential diplomatic engagement might be
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potential diplomatic engagement might be
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and uh what an outcome might be in terms
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and uh what an outcome might be in terms
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of uh of peace and I think with an
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of uh of peace and I think with an
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unconventional actor a non-state actor
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unconventional actor a non-state actor
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you have basic question questions what
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you have basic question questions what
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is winning what is peace what is the
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is winning what is peace what is the
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alternative and all of these questions
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alternative and all of these questions
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are today
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are today
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unanswerable I think uh when I look at
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unanswerable I think uh when I look at
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where we are now I think we are at a
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where we are now I think we are at a
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precipice we are not about to fall off
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precipice we are not about to fall off
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the precipice but and I think in fact
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the precipice but and I think in fact
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that the the outside actors who are kind
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that the the outside actors who are kind
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of Quasi engaged or have a quazi have a
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of Quasi engaged or have a quazi have a
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stake in this conflict whether it's Iran
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stake in this conflict whether it's Iran
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on one side the unit States and the
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on one side the unit States and the
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other several militias in Yemen Iraq
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other several militias in Yemen Iraq
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Syria and Lebanon that that at this
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Syria and Lebanon that that at this
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point none of them want a bigger War but
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point none of them want a bigger War but
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as we all know from the history of
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as we all know from the history of
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conflict it takes one incident to
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conflict it takes one incident to
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escalate to get it out of control to
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escalate to get it out of control to
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lead us on a different trajectory and
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lead us on a different trajectory and
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the algorithm of this of this war is
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the algorithm of this of this war is
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different than any of the previous
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different than any of the previous
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conflicts between Israel and the
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conflicts between Israel and the
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non-state actors in that in the past it
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non-state actors in that in the past it
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has been a provocation by one one of the
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has been a provocation by one one of the
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militias an Israeli countered with air
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militias an Israeli countered with air
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strikes perhaps small grounds ground
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strikes perhaps small grounds ground
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actions uh but then got her in Egypt
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actions uh but then got her in Egypt
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particularly get go in and engage in in
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particularly get go in and engage in in
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um some kind of temporary ceasefire with
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um some kind of temporary ceasefire with
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the emphasis on temporary and the
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the emphasis on temporary and the
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problem is that none of the core
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problem is that none of the core
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questions uh that have defined this
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questions uh that have defined this
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conflict the fate of the Palestinians
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conflict the fate of the Palestinians
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you know the relations between Israel
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you know the relations between Israel
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and its uh Arab or Muslim neighbors have
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and its uh Arab or Muslim neighbors have
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been addressed since 1948 and there have
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been addressed since 1948 and there have
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been attempts now um kind of taking the
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been attempts now um kind of taking the
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my dad always said to understand any
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my dad always said to understand any
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conflict you have to stand on top of the
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conflict you have to stand on top of the
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world and look down and it's very good
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world and look down and it's very good
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advice right now uh I think what's
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advice right now uh I think what's
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important to understand is that uh since
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important to understand is that uh since
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since the 1970s for a half almost a half
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since the 1970s for a half almost a half
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century there has been slowly a
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century there has been slowly a
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tapestry uh that has been woven by play
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tapestry uh that has been woven by play
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players whether it's Israel and Egypt F
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players whether it's Israel and Egypt F
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first and then Israel and Jordan and
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first and then Israel and Jordan and
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then now through the Abraham Accords a
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then now through the Abraham Accords a
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tapestry and the tapestry has uh it's
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tapestry and the tapestry has uh it's
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not finished uh it's partially there but
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not finished uh it's partially there but
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it was bringing together different
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it was bringing together different
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threads different um types of government
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threads different um types of government
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different uh ethnicities and religions
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different uh ethnicities and religions
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in uh what what everyone what many
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in uh what what everyone what many
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players intended to be um you know a way
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players intended to be um you know a way
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if
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if
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countries didn't like each other had
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countries didn't like each other had
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different
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religions uh but that could coexist in a
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religions uh but that could coexist in a
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kind of cold peace and my fear is that
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kind of cold peace and my fear is that
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this war and its consequences and Ain is
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this war and its consequences and Ain is
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absolutely right the
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absolutely right the
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consequences are are just huge huge huge
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consequences are are just huge huge huge
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and and in involve far more than the
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and and in involve far more than the
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fate of Israel and Hamas that that
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fate of Israel and Hamas that that
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tapestry unravels and we get back to
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tapestry unravels and we get back to
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zero and we have to start with pulling
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zero and we have to start with pulling
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the first two threads together and
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the first two threads together and
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that's how dangerous it is and just to
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that's how dangerous it is and just to
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give you a sampling of what that might
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give you a sampling of what that might
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be um does Israel eliminate Hamas uh at
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be um does Israel eliminate Hamas uh at
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least you know shortterm it's leadership
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least you know shortterm it's leadership
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it's destroy it its arsenals uh its
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it's destroy it its arsenals uh its
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command posts and so forth but does that
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command posts and so forth but does that
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lead to um you know a different
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lead to um you know a different
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Evolution a different idea a different
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Evolution a different idea a different
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group emerging does this uh cause such
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group emerging does this uh cause such
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anger and fury among Palestinians in the
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anger and fury among Palestinians in the
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West Bank that uh Israel regains
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West Bank that uh Israel regains
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temporarily control of God but loses
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temporarily control of God but loses
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West Bank as a potential interlocutor
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West Bank as a potential interlocutor
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and does this lead uh governments in the
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and does this lead uh governments in the
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region that have tried or been willing
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region that have tried or been willing
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to talk to Israel does that LE make it
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to talk to Israel does that LE make it
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impossible for them to move forward for
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impossible for them to move forward for
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years to come that the stakes here are
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years to come that the stakes here are
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so big um and on the last question you
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so big um and on the last question you
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know Iran and and all of this I think
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know Iran and and all of this I think
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what's really interesting is that the
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what's really interesting is that the
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militias have clearly uh in Iraq in
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militias have clearly uh in Iraq in
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Yemen in Lebanon have been probing
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Yemen in Lebanon have been probing
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have been uh the United States forces or
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have been uh the United States forces or
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B places where they have been based have
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B places where they have been based have
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been hit TW uh multiple times in Iraq
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been hit TW uh multiple times in Iraq
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and Syria um Iran's allies in Yemen have
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and Syria um Iran's allies in Yemen have
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have uh allegedly targeted Israel with
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have uh allegedly targeted Israel with
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missiles and drones that were shot down
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missiles and drones that were shot down
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by the us and one by Saudi Arabia um uh
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by the us and one by Saudi Arabia um uh
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but we haven't seen the escalation yet
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but we haven't seen the escalation yet
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and the question is will will that
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and the question is will will that
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change once the ground assault begins or
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change once the ground assault begins or
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are there certain boundaries that that
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are there certain boundaries that that
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are set in terms of how far the
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are set in terms of how far the
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escalation goes it'll escalate by all of
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escalation goes it'll escalate by all of
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them they'll be probing trying to get
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them they'll be probing trying to get
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the US the raise the cost of the US says
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the US the raise the cost of the US says
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oh we'll pull our forces out of 900 out
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oh we'll pull our forces out of 900 out
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of Syria and some of the 2500 out of
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of Syria and some of the 2500 out of
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Iraq which actually plays into Iran's
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Iraq which actually plays into Iran's
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hand that it gains side benefits from
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hand that it gains side benefits from
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this conflict so uh again this one as
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this conflict so uh again this one as
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Aon rightly said is just so big uh and
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Aon rightly said is just so big uh and
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will play out potentially for years to
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will play out potentially for years to
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come even if Israel makes military
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come even if Israel makes military
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Headway in the not too distant future
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Headway in the not too distant future
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against Hamas all right so uh we're
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against Hamas all right so uh we're
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gonna uh ask some questions and and and
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gonna uh ask some questions and and and
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and see uh how you you want to uh uh
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and see uh how you you want to uh uh
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answer them I'm getting some messages
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answer them I'm getting some messages
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from uh uh the team that prepares these
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from uh uh the team that prepares these
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so I don't have anything from the
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so I don't have anything from the
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audience yet but let me ask you uh uh
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audience yet but let me ask you uh uh
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this there is a rumor going on and I I'm
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this there is a rumor going on and I I'm
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interested what what the two of you
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interested what what the two of you
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think that
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think that
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um what what's really happening because
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um what what's really happening because
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the Saudi Israeli possibility was was
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the Saudi Israeli possibility was was
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hurt so badly by this attack that if uh
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hurt so badly by this attack that if uh
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Israel is able and that this is one of
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Israel is able and that this is one of
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the factors with for Israel that if
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the factors with for Israel that if
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Israel manages to uh destroy Hamas that
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Israel manages to uh destroy Hamas that
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that will improve the possibility ities
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that will improve the possibility ities
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of a
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of a
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uh of a Saudi Israeli uh new uh
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uh of a Saudi Israeli uh new uh
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relationship and and of course hurting
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relationship and and of course hurting
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uh hurting Iran it actually increases
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uh hurting Iran it actually increases
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their Rel their
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relationship uh uh uh I also have
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relationship uh uh uh I also have
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another question I like to ask more than
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another question I like to ask more than
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one so you could skip one uh and that is
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one so you could skip one uh and that is
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um this comes from Mary uh Mary elen
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um this comes from Mary uh Mary elen
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hegland professor ameritus of Santa clar
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hegland professor ameritus of Santa clar
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university in the United States do you
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university in the United States do you
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think Netanyahu Bears any responsibility
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think Netanyahu Bears any responsibility
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for all of this by promoting illegal
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for all of this by promoting illegal
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Israeli settlements on Palestinian land
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Israeli settlements on Palestinian land
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so uh why don't we start with Aaron uh
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so uh why don't we start with Aaron uh
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since he started the first question has
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since he started the first question has
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had a moment to rest for uh uh and there
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had a moment to rest for uh uh and there
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are two questions you can answer one or
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are two questions you can answer one or
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both Aon uh on Saudi Arabia I think in
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both Aon uh on Saudi Arabia I think in
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Israeli Politics the famous saw is that
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Israeli Politics the famous saw is that
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you can be dead or dead and buried I
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you can be dead or dead and buried I
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think that the US Saudi Israeli
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think that the US Saudi Israeli
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normalization process is just dead it's
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normalization process is just dead it's
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not Clos for the season but I would note
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not Clos for the season but I would note
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this that if in fact the destruction of
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this that if in fact the destruction of
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Hamas occurs and that's something we
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Hamas occurs and that's something we
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should talk about Hamas is has an
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should talk about Hamas is has an
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administrative governing Sovereign
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administrative governing Sovereign
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structure it has a military structure
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structure it has a military structure
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it's also an the organizational
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it's also an the organizational
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embodiment of an idea and it has deep
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embodiment of an idea and it has deep
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root social and economic through the
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root social and economic through the
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dawa the so-called calling to uh
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dawa the so-called calling to uh
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Palestinians in in Gaza since the early
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Palestinians in in Gaza since the early
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80s so the destruction of Hamas and
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80s so the destruction of Hamas and
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Robin's point is is right on is going to
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Robin's point is is right on is going to
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create destruction of the death and
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create destruction of the death and
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destruction in
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destruction in
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Gaza largely against Palestinians
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Gaza largely against Palestinians
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civilians is going to undermine the
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civilians is going to undermine the
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prospects of
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legitimizing uh any Palestinian
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legitimizing uh any Palestinian
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interlocutor that is wants to presume to
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interlocutor that is wants to presume to
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negotiate in the wake of this uh MBs is
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negotiate in the wake of this uh MBs is
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38 years
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old uh assuming he gets to be king of
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old uh assuming he gets to be king of
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Saudi Arabia he will rule Saudi Arabia
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Saudi Arabia he will rule Saudi Arabia
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arguably for 50 or more years he will
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arguably for 50 or more years he will
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see during those 50 years six or seven
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see during those 50 years six or seven
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maybe more American Presidents come and
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maybe more American Presidents come and
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go he is pursuing a 360 degree foreign
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go he is pursuing a 360 degree foreign
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policy not tethering himself to the
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policy not tethering himself to the
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United States he sees China Rising in a
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United States he sees China Rising in a
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Saudi sense which is important he's not
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Saudi sense which is important he's not
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going to abandon Russia because of the
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going to abandon Russia because of the
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OPEC plus I think MBS will survey the
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OPEC plus I think MBS will survey the
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wreckage he wants things from the United
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wreckage he wants things from the United
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States much more important frankly than
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States much more important frankly than
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what happens on the Palestinian issue
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what happens on the Palestinian issue
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for him that was clearly the case before
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for him that was clearly the case before
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the Palestinian issue were way more
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the Palestinian issue were way more
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heavily now so I think he'll take his
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heavily now so I think he'll take his
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time and he'll make a judgment as to
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time and he'll make a judgment as to
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whether or not a he can get everything
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whether or not a he can get everything
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he wants from this Administration which
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he wants from this Administration which
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is a mutual defense treaty I might add
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is a mutual defense treaty I might add
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the last time the United
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the last time the United
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States submitted a mutual defense treaty
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States submitted a mutual defense treaty
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for ratification to the US Congress
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for ratification to the US Congress
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which which then has the force of
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which which then has the force of
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law that's what we're talking about was
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law that's what we're talking about was
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1960 I believe with a revision of the US
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1960 I believe with a revision of the US
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treaty he wants that from us I don't
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treaty he wants that from us I don't
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know if that's even possible and he
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know if that's even possible and he
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wants American help and the export of
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wants American help and the export of
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our nuclear technology presumably with
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our nuclear technology presumably with
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the right to control the fuel cycle
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the right to control the fuel cycle
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either under American oaces or not I I
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either under American oaces or not I I
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don't know he'll he'll make an
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don't know he'll he'll make an
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assessment in the wake of this and then
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assessment in the wake of this and then
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he'll he'll I think he'll
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he'll he'll I think he'll
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proceed I think I'll I'll I'll defer to
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proceed I think I'll I'll I'll defer to
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Robin in the interest of time other
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Robin in the interest of time other
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oh Erin don't do that to me um I'm going
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oh Erin don't do that to me um I'm going
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to leave Israeli politics to you uh you
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to leave Israeli politics to you uh you
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know that far better than I I I'll make
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know that far better than I I I'll make
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a couple of points one I think that the
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a couple of points one I think that the
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war erupted not just because of the
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war erupted not just because of the
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Saudi Israel potential deal and I put
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Saudi Israel potential deal and I put
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the emphasis on potential I do briefings
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the emphasis on potential I do briefings
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all the time with the state department
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all the time with the state department
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the White House the NC and they
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the White House the NC and they
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emphasized this was a long way off that
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emphasized this was a long way off that
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a lot of discussion but it was hardly
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a lot of discussion but it was hardly
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imminent so I think that was maybe a
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imminent so I think that was maybe a
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factor in the thinking but I also think
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factor in the thinking but I also think
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that the um the discussion by some of
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that the um the discussion by some of
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the Hardline Israeli politicians about
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the Hardline Israeli politicians about
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what they want to do around the alak
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what they want to do around the alak
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sasque which is the third holiest Sid in
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sasque which is the third holiest Sid in
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uh Islam the operation as Hamas called
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uh Islam the operation as Hamas called
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it was alaka flood and that tells you
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it was alaka flood and that tells you
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one of the flash points I also think um
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one of the flash points I also think um
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that there were you know there were
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that there were you know there were
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increasing tensions on the West Bank and
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increasing tensions on the West Bank and
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Israel was focused on those tens
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Israel was focused on those tens
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tensions as was the United States when
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tensions as was the United States when
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it came to thinking about what the
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it came to thinking about what the
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warnings were what the dangers were and
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warnings were what the dangers were and
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I think those kinds of factors all came
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I think those kinds of factors all came
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together war is always a Confluence of
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together war is always a Confluence of
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factors but it also coincided with Hamas
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factors but it also coincided with Hamas
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capabilities and they have been with
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capabilities and they have been with
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each uh one of their confrontations with
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each uh one of their confrontations with
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Israel they have grown bigger uh worked
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Israel they have grown bigger uh worked
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harder at training built larger arsenals
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harder at training built larger arsenals
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have worked uh with their Iranian
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have worked uh with their Iranian
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sponsors and trainers and and uh so I
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sponsors and trainers and and uh so I
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think that you had all of these things
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think that you had all of these things
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come together and they felt this was the
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come together and they felt this was the
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right time uh to do to act for a variety
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right time uh to do to act for a variety
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of reasons and so I think we we we W
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of reasons and so I think we we we W
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think too much about the Saudi element
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think too much about the Saudi element
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um I agree with Aron I think uh um NBS
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um I agree with Aron I think uh um NBS
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the Crown Prince in Saudi Arabia is
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the Crown Prince in Saudi Arabia is
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playing the long game he wants he really
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playing the long game he wants he really
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wants the US to provide the kind of
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wants the US to provide the kind of
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protection to the kingdom that it does
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protection to the kingdom that it does
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to all of its European allies and I
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to all of its European allies and I
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think that's when when that became got
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think that's when when that became got
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closer I think that would be a very
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closer I think that would be a very
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controversial idea in Washington um I I
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controversial idea in Washington um I I
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want to say one thing on this H Hamas
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want to say one thing on this H Hamas
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question and based on the American
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question and based on the American
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Experience when we went into Iraq there
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Experience when we went into Iraq there
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was no Al-Qaeda uh the US liked to claim
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was no Al-Qaeda uh the US liked to claim
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there was but intelligence found there
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there was but intelligence found there
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wasn't but Al-Qaeda of Iraq emerged and
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wasn't but Al-Qaeda of Iraq emerged and
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slowly went after its leadership and
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slowly went after its leadership and
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managed to kill some of them and that
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managed to kill some of them and that
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Al-Qaeda of Iraq
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Al-Qaeda of Iraq
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uh evolved into um the Iraq uh the
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uh evolved into um the Iraq uh the
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Islamic State of Iraq and the US uh in
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Islamic State of Iraq and the US uh in
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an a strike killed that leader and it
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an a strike killed that leader and it
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only evolved further and wider into the
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only evolved further and wider into the
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Islamic State of Iraq and Syria Isis
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Islamic State of Iraq and Syria Isis
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which seized a third of Iraq and Syrian
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which seized a third of Iraq and Syrian
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territory to create a caliphate now the
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territory to create a caliphate now the
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caliphate no longer exists but Isis
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caliphate no longer exists but Isis
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still does and it also has franchises
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still does and it also has franchises
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now on three continents so I think we
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now on three continents so I think we
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have to um kind of be smart about what
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have to um kind of be smart about what
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is it that when you say you're going to
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is it that when you say you're going to
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eliminate Hamas what what is the
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eliminate Hamas what what is the
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alternative for the
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alternative for the
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Palestinians uh it's clear that fata
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Palestinians uh it's clear that fata
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which rules in the West Bank is has been
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which rules in the West Bank is has been
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rejected by the majority in and I think
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rejected by the majority in and I think
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uh the idea that the West Bank might one
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uh the idea that the West Bank might one
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day assume responsibility for Gaza as
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day assume responsibility for Gaza as
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non-starter uh I don't think the West
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non-starter uh I don't think the West
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Bank would want to do it would see that
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Bank would want to do it would see that
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as as a viable alternative and we're
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as as a viable alternative and we're
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struggling with what happens in the West
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struggling with what happens in the West
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Bank Frank
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Bank Frank
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politically um given the Actuarial
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politically um given the Actuarial
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charts and um president abas being in
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charts and um president abas being in
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his late 80s and having no obvious ER
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his late 80s and having no obvious ER
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parent that the the the Palestinians
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parent that the the the Palestinians
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have are at a more uncertain stage than
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have are at a more uncertain stage than
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at any time since they made peace with
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at any time since they made peace with
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Israel 1993 30 years ago so um again we
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Israel 1993 30 years ago so um again we
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need to be careful about or Israel needs
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need to be careful about or Israel needs
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to be smart about uh what it means by
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to be smart about uh what it means by
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eliminating Hamas and creating an
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eliminating Hamas and creating an
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environment that is secure for Israel I
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environment that is secure for Israel I
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think whatever it does militarily there
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think whatever it does militarily there
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are very few ways to guarantee uh the
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are very few ways to guarantee uh the
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willingness of the Palestinians after
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willingness of the Palestinians after
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this to want to engage with
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this to want to engage with
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Israel uh Erin do you want to say
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Israel uh Erin do you want to say
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anything about uh yeah I I'll I'll
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anything about uh yeah I I'll I'll
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address the other question look U there
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address the other question look U there
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there's going to be a reckoning after
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there's going to be a reckoning after
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1973 the grat commission filed an
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1973 the grat commission filed an
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interim report in April of 74 an interim
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interim report in April of 74 an interim
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report uh identifying key military and
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report uh identifying key military and
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security officials held responsible for
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security officials held responsible for
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the intelligence failure it left the
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the intelligence failure it left the
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Prime Minister then G Mayer untouch she
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Prime Minister then G Mayer untouch she
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was forced by public opinion to resign
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was forced by public opinion to resign
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there will be there will be a reckoning
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there will be there will be a reckoning
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in in answer to the specific question at
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in in answer to the specific question at
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minimum the policies pursued by this
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minimum the policies pursued by this
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Israeli government most extreme uh
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Israeli government most extreme uh
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fundamentalist even Jewish supremacist
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fundamentalist even Jewish supremacist
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government in the history of the state
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government in the history of the state
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of
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Israel sent unmistakable signals to
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Israel sent unmistakable signals to
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Israel's
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adversaries that Israel was
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adversaries that Israel was
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divided and weakened and
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divided and weakened and
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distracted now it'll take a state commi
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distracted now it'll take a state commi
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Commission of inquiry to determine
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Commission of inquiry to determine
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exactly what was the
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exactly what was the
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relationship what was the state of
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relationship what was the state of
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Readiness and why why did the Israelis
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Readiness and why why did the Israelis
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not see this coming and the operational
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not see this coming and the operational
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failure that occurred in the time uh
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failure that occurred in the time uh
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between the when these attacks
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between the when these attacks
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began anywhere from 3 to 12
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began anywhere from 3 to 12
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hours and one last Point what is at
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hours and one last Point what is at
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stake here for the state of
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stake here for the state of
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Israel is the contract between the
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Israel is the contract between the
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governed and those who govern the
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governed and those who govern the
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legitimacy of government rests on its
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legitimacy of government rests on its
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capacity to protect its
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capacity to protect its
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citizenry the government of Israel
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citizenry the government of Israel
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failed galactically not only in not
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failed galactically not only in not
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anticipating this
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anticipating this
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but in
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but in
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responding to
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responding to
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that and thereupon you had the horror
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that and thereupon you had the horror
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stories which will continue to circulate
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stories which will continue to circulate
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the hostage situation which will
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the hostage situation which will
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continue to perpetuate that giving rise
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continue to perpetuate that giving rise
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to a
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to a
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generation of Israelis
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generation of Israelis
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scarred by what happened on October 7th
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scarred by what happened on October 7th
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and this Israeli
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and this Israeli
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government like all governments who
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government like all governments who
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preside over over times good or bad is
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preside over over times good or bad is
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responsible for
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responsible for
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that hard to believe that three four
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that hard to believe that three four
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years from now maybe less that Netanyahu
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years from now maybe less that Netanyahu
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will be prime minister but odd things
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will be prime minister but odd things
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happen sometimes in Democratic countries
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happen sometimes in Democratic countries
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uh but he does seem to be in big uh
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uh but he does seem to be in big uh
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trouble at least that's what I would
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trouble at least that's what I would
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think well we've got the questions as
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think well we've got the questions as
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usually happens building up uh Rabbi
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usually happens building up uh Rabbi
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Suzanne singer of Temple bethelen Los
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Suzanne singer of Temple bethelen Los
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Angeles I think is there a she asks is
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Angeles I think is there a she asks is
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there a way out of this conflict without
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there a way out of this conflict without
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pursuing
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pursuing
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War either one of you want to try that
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War either one of you want to try that
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I'm gonna give it to Robin because she
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I'm gonna give it to Robin because she
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hasn't gone first
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hasn't gone first
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yet uh I mean we are at War I this is
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yet uh I mean we are at War I this is
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the problem um you know the United
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the problem um you know the United
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States is trying to navigate a path
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States is trying to navigate a path
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right now where it allows Israel to to
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right now where it allows Israel to to
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uh take action against an adversary at
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uh take action against an adversary at
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the same time it's pressing to open
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the same time it's pressing to open
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humanitarian Corner Corners corridors
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humanitarian Corner Corners corridors
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from Egypt to to get in humanitarian
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from Egypt to to get in humanitarian
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supplies to those who are in a what is
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supplies to those who are in a what is
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Loosely called a safe Zone and it isn't
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Loosely called a safe Zone and it isn't
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uh and you know I think the the the hard
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uh and you know I think the the the hard
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part you know you you don't have many
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part you know you you don't have many
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countries that are willing to actually
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countries that are willing to actually
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help the Palestinians right now Egypt
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help the Palestinians right now Egypt
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doesn't want to take in refugees people
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doesn't want to take in refugees people
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who were already refugees when they were
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who were already refugees when they were
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in Gaza um because it fears being ending
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in Gaza um because it fears being ending
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up responsible for them if there's you
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up responsible for them if there's you
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know um if they can't go back to homes
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know um if they can't go back to homes
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or uh or jobs and
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or uh or jobs and
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it's I I think the United States is also
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it's I I think the United States is also
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deploying in the Middle East because it
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deploying in the Middle East because it
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wants to avoid a bigger War it's trying
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wants to avoid a bigger War it's trying
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to send a message that there's muscle
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to send a message that there's muscle
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out there if anybody tries anything
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out there if anybody tries anything
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bigger whether it's broader attacks on
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bigger whether it's broader attacks on
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US forces uh outside of the region us is
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US forces uh outside of the region us is
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about to deploy 2,000 Personnel on the
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about to deploy 2,000 Personnel on the
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ground and we're not sure where but the
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ground and we're not sure where but the
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the danger as the US learned in Beirut
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the danger as the US learned in Beirut
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in the early 1980s is when we deployed
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in the early 1980s is when we deployed
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peacekeepers and they ended up becoming
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peacekeepers and they ended up becoming
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targets and the US was forced to
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targets and the US was forced to
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withdraw having failed in its Mission
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withdraw having failed in its Mission
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and does the US presence new US presence
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and does the US presence new US presence
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in the region also make them targets um
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in the region also make them targets um
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now they will provide very uh powerful
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now they will provide very uh powerful
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defense mechanisms espe especially for
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defense mechanisms espe especially for
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the firing of missiles on US forces but
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the firing of missiles on US forces but
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again what happens if a militia in Iraq
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again what happens if a militia in Iraq
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that's backed by Iran fires something
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that's backed by Iran fires something
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real that that kills American troops at
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real that that kills American troops at
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Al alassad Air Base to pick one example
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Al alassad Air Base to pick one example
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in Northern Iraq what does the US do is
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in Northern Iraq what does the US do is
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the
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the
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US Mila does it go after the backers in
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US Mila does it go after the backers in
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Iran that you know this is where these
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Iran that you know this is where these
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flash points that one thing can lead to
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flash points that one thing can lead to
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a much wider war and I think you have a
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a much wider war and I think you have a
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war and that's the reality on the ground
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war and that's the reality on the ground
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between Israel and Hamas and the
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between Israel and Hamas and the
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question now is can you prevent
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question now is can you prevent
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something bigger I think you can I think
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something bigger I think you can I think
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that's what the US is trying to do but
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that's what the US is trying to do but
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anytime um a major
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anytime um a major
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power becomes a player the US shot down
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power becomes a player the US shot down
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these missiles and drones that were
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these missiles and drones that were
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fired from the by the houthis in Yemen
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fired from the by the houthis in Yemen
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so the us has fired its first shot and
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so the us has fired its first shot and
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in some ways Iran has two through its
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in some ways Iran has two through its
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militias uh in at least three countries
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militias uh in at least three countries
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and so we're again as I said we're on
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and so we're again as I said we're on
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this precipice and it's trying to
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this precipice and it's trying to
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control um the you know hold back
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control um the you know hold back
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anybody from all the players from
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anybody from all the players from
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falling off that precipice right
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falling off that precipice right
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now you have Aon do you have anything
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now you have Aon do you have anything
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you want to add or should we go on
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you want to add or should we go on
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you've got you you've already had
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you've got you you've already had
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24 uh American troops wounded some with
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24 uh American troops wounded some with
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traumatic brain injuries and one
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traumatic brain injuries and one
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contractor who died of cardiac arrest so
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contractor who died of cardiac arrest so
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the the idea that pro-iranian militias
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the the idea that pro-iranian militias
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in Syria and Iraq would strike American
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in Syria and Iraq would strike American
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troops was already happened if in fact
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troops was already happened if in fact
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they find a an actual Target and kill
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they find a an actual Target and kill
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kill should kill large numbers you would
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kill should kill large numbers you would
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see you've got two carrier strike groups
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see you've got two carrier strike groups
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the second I think is should be there
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the second I think is should be there
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any day and over 200 Striker aircraft
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any day and over 200 Striker aircraft
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involved here
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involved here
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uh I do not see if you talk if we're
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uh I do not see if you talk if we're
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talking Regional escalation meaning a
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talking Regional escalation meaning a
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direct conflict between Israel and Iran
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direct conflict between Israel and Iran
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with Israeli aircraft and missiles
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with Israeli aircraft and missiles
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striking Iranian territory going after
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striking Iranian territory going after
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conventional unconventional sites I find
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conventional unconventional sites I find
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it almost impossible to imagine the US
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it almost impossible to imagine the US
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would stay out of that I think that that
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would stay out of that I think that that
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probability is still quite low
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probability is still quite low
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um an escalation between Israel and and
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um an escalation between Israel and and
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his bu
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his bu
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which would be far more deadly than the
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which would be far more deadly than the
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summer of 2006 where I will remind
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summer of 2006 where I will remind
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everyone that 5,000 guys in a militia
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everyone that 5,000 guys in a militia
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with relatively unsophisticated High
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with relatively unsophisticated High
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trajectory weapons shut down the
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trajectory weapons shut down the
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northern half of the middle east's most
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northern half of the middle east's most
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preeminent military power for 34
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preeminent military power for 34
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days that was 17 years
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days that was 17 years
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ago that that is an escalation worth
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ago that that is an escalation worth
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worrying about and I I I I I don't have
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worrying about and I I I I I don't have
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an answer as to whether or not that can
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an answer as to whether or not that can
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be avoided can I just add one thing
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be avoided can I just add one thing
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Steve that this week we marked the 40th
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Steve that this week we marked the 40th
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anniversary of the bayroot bombing where
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anniversary of the bayroot bombing where
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241 American peacekeepers and 58 French
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241 American peacekeepers and 58 French
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uh peacekeepers were killed by what was
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uh peacekeepers were killed by what was
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an embryo of Hezbollah uh it was the
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an embryo of Hezbollah uh it was the
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largest non-nuclear explosion on Earth
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largest non-nuclear explosion on Earth
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since World War II and uh the US always
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since World War II and uh the US always
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said it was going to get revenge for
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said it was going to get revenge for
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that and it hasn't but there it's it's
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that and it hasn't but there it's it's
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lurks in the in the minds of many still
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lurks in the in the minds of many still
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at the Pentagon um and I agree with
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at the Pentagon um and I agree with
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there and I I don't see for the moment
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there and I I don't see for the moment
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uh Israel going after Iran but I I
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uh Israel going after Iran but I I
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wouldn't be surprised at all given that
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wouldn't be surprised at all given that
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Israel has struck um airports uh in
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Israel has struck um airports uh in
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Syria both in Damascus and Aleppo that
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Syria both in Damascus and Aleppo that
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Israel goes after Iranian facilities or
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Israel goes after Iranian facilities or
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Munitions that are that are not in Iran
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Munitions that are that are not in Iran
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but are um in countries
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but are um in countries
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that weapon that could be used against
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that weapon that could be used against
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Israel I think it's preemptively engaged
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Israel I think it's preemptively engaged
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in actions
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in actions
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uh what I worry about is is the scenario
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uh what I worry about is is the scenario
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where there's something between Iran and
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where there's something between Iran and
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the United States uh you know Israel is
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the United States uh you know Israel is
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not going to go after Iran's nuclear
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not going to go after Iran's nuclear
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facilities right now that's just a
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facilities right now that's just a
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non-starter it doesn't have the
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non-starter it doesn't have the
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capabilities and and or the will um to
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capabilities and and or the will um to
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to launch a bigger War right now I do
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to launch a bigger War right now I do
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think that that that BB if he's still in
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think that that that BB if he's still in
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power or um those of his political ilk
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power or um those of his political ilk
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will want Iran to pay a price since it
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will want Iran to pay a price since it
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is complicit uh in all the activi the
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is complicit uh in all the activi the
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training the funding the Weaponry of the
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training the funding the Weaponry of the
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of its proxy allies in the so-called um
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of its proxy allies in the so-called um
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axis of resistance in the Middle East uh
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axis of resistance in the Middle East uh
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there will be some kind of cost ex
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there will be some kind of cost ex
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exacted down the road but I don't think
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exacted down the road but I don't think
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now the danger is the trip wire is set
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now the danger is the trip wire is set
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by some kind of um again as the the
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by some kind of um again as the the
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these militias in the region prob uh
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these militias in the region prob uh
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attack uh American targets and what is
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attack uh American targets and what is
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the red line for the United States on
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the red line for the United States on
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that and we saw this happen after the
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that and we saw this happen after the
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death of Suman when um the US
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death of Suman when um the US
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assassinated the head of an a
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assassinated the head of an a
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revolutionary guard Elite unit when he
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revolutionary guard Elite unit when he
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was visiting Baghdad and Iran responded
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was visiting Baghdad and Iran responded
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in the largest launch of missiles
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in the largest launch of missiles
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against US forces since the Korean War
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against US forces since the Korean War
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by attacking on the firing missiles at
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by attacking on the firing missiles at
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al-assad the base I mentioned earlier in
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al-assad the base I mentioned earlier in
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Northern Iraq um and the US you know
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Northern Iraq um and the US you know
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both sides stopped there the question is
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both sides stopped there the question is
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would both sides stop there in a similar
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would both sides stop there in a similar
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action similar confrontation uh as a
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action similar confrontation uh as a
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consequence of this war passions are
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consequence of this war passions are
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running so deep Fury and fear are so
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running so deep Fury and fear are so
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profound that the danger is that we
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profound that the danger is that we
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react um in ways that just provoke
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react um in ways that just provoke
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another round and a bigger
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another round and a bigger
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escalation all right we have from Ciro
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escalation all right we have from Ciro
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Egypt Muhammad nasia I hope I have that
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Egypt Muhammad nasia I hope I have that
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name right uh and he asks a very
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name right uh and he asks a very
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interesting question is valuing
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interesting question is valuing
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normalization between Arabs and Israel
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normalization between Arabs and Israel
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at the expense of true peace what caused
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at the expense of true peace what caused
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the recent attack by
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the recent attack by
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Hamas either one of I mean I'll I mean
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Hamas either one of I mean I'll I mean
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that's a it's a it's a question that
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that's a it's a it's a question that
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raises a very complicated and fraught
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raises a very complicated and fraught
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series of
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series of
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issues um thought
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issues um thought
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experiment the Biden Administration
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experiment the Biden Administration
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comes to
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comes to
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Washington in January of 2021 a lot of
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Washington in January of 2021 a lot of
other
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other
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other
priorities
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priorities
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priorities
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right uh eventually big priorities with
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right uh eventually big priorities with
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China and Russia and Ukraine but instead
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China and Russia and Ukraine but instead
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of focusing largely on the Israeli Arab
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of focusing largely on the Israeli Arab
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Interstate process which they did which
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Interstate process which they did which
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the Trump Administration
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the Trump Administration
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began it chooses to
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began it chooses to
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focus to some degree not pushing for a
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focus to some degree not pushing for a
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major comprehensive settlement between
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major comprehensive settlement between
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Israelis and Palestinians which
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Israelis and Palestinians which
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frankly was has been out of the Reach
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frankly was has been out of the Reach
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Out Of Reach for in my in my judgment
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Out Of Reach for in my in my judgment
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decades decides to to devote greater
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decades decides to to devote greater
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attention to the Israeli Palestinian
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attention to the Israeli Palestinian
problem
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problem
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problem
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okay would the Hamas attack of October 7
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okay would the Hamas attack of October 7
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still happened would would it have
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still happened would would it have
happened
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happened
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happened
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anywhere because I've encountered people
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anywhere because I've encountered people
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who blame this attack on Joe Biden on
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who blame this attack on Joe Biden on
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ignoring the Israeli Palestinian problem
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ignoring the Israeli Palestinian problem
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on focusing on Israeli Saudi
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on focusing on Israeli Saudi
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normalization and on the last four
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normalization and on the last four
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administrations frankly one or two of
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administrations frankly one or two of
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which I was involved in that simply
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which I was involved in that simply
didn't
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didn't
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didn't
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try to deal seriously with the Israeli
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try to deal seriously with the Israeli
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Palestinian problem my answer
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Palestinian problem my answer
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is the Hamas attack would probably have
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is the Hamas attack would probably have
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happened anyway because what we know
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happened anyway because what we know
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about the peace process the farther the
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about the peace process the farther the
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more progress is made the greater
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more progress is made the greater
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vulnerability it it it presents to
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vulnerability it it it presents to
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extremist groups of all
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extremist groups of all
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Persuasions um so uh I think that
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Persuasions um so uh I think that
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Israeli Saudi normalization may have
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Israeli Saudi normalization may have
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been a factor in Iranian thinking and in
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been a factor in Iranian thinking and in
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hamas's thinking because after all if
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hamas's thinking because after all if
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the Israelis and the Saudis normalize
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the Israelis and the Saudis normalize
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the entire notion of an a of a axis of
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the entire notion of an a of a axis of
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resistance composed of isbah and Iran
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resistance composed of isbah and Iran
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two Shia actors and a very important
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two Shia actors and a very important
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Sunni
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Sunni
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component which lends legitimacy to this
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component which lends legitimacy to this
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AIS of resistance might have been
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AIS of resistance might have been
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threatened I don't think frankly had the
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threatened I don't think frankly had the
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bid Administration focused on the
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bid Administration focused on the
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Israeli Palestinian issue that it with
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Israeli Palestinian issue that it with
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any degree of certainty we could have
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any degree of certainty we could have
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predicted that there would have been no
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predicted that there would have been no
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Hamas
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Hamas
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attack uh Robin you want to get in or
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attack uh Robin you want to get in or
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should we move on so I just quickly say
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should we move on so I just quickly say
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uh for first of all I think the we
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uh for first of all I think the we
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forget that Iran and Saudi Arabia had
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forget that Iran and Saudi Arabia had
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renewed relations for the first time in
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renewed relations for the first time in
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uh seven years they'd reopened embes and
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uh seven years they'd reopened embes and
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they were talking to each other uh
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they were talking to each other uh
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actually picking up the phone in the
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actually picking up the phone in the
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middle of this crisis uh so that you
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middle of this crisis uh so that you
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know I I I might differ a little bit
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know I I I might differ a little bit
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with u Erin on on that point I think the
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with u Erin on on that point I think the
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problem for the Biden Administration is
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problem for the Biden Administration is
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that it was trying to Transit transition
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that it was trying to Transit transition
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to the 21st century and we've got sucked
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to the 21st century and we've got sucked
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back into the 20th century in two Wars
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back into the 20th century in two Wars
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one in Ukraine facing our old Cold War
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one in Ukraine facing our old Cold War
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Nemesis and one with the Arab Israeli
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Nemesis and one with the Arab Israeli
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conflict uh Biden was determined as a
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conflict uh Biden was determined as a
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guy who spent his whole life doing
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guy who spent his whole life doing
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foreign policy to deal with the the
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foreign policy to deal with the the
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biggest threat challenge dealing facing
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biggest threat challenge dealing facing
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United States militarily economically
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United States militarily economically
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diplomatically in the world and which
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diplomatically in the world and which
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will be true for Mo most of the 21st
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will be true for Mo most of the 21st
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century and and the problem is that
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century and and the problem is that
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um we thought we could try a different
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um we thought we could try a different
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tact in dealing with the Arab Israeli
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tact in dealing with the Arab Israeli
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conflict uh broaden something that the
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conflict uh broaden something that the
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Trump administration had started that
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Trump administration had started that
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that the Obama administration had worked
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that the Obama administration had worked
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on and you know you go back president
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on and you know you go back president
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president and there have been this you
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president and there have been this you
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know again this tapestry all these
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know again this tapestry all these
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little threads that have been sewn
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little threads that have been sewn
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together uh and that it hoped that
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together uh and that it hoped that
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um that by you know dealing with
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um that by you know dealing with
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isolating Putin and trying to deal with
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isolating Putin and trying to deal with
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China or putting belittling the the
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China or putting belittling the the
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Russian uh Dimension that it could move
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Russian uh Dimension that it could move
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on and it found out that it couldn't and
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on and it found out that it couldn't and
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and that's the great Challenge and and I
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and that's the great Challenge and and I
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think when I look at the the
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think when I look at the the
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intersection of these two Wars right now
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intersection of these two Wars right now
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and the bigger questions of democracies
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and the bigger questions of democracies
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being increasingly dysfunctional
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being increasingly dysfunctional
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societies Democratic societies being
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societies Democratic societies being
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increasingly polarized I worry a lot
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increasingly polarized I worry a lot
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about how historians will look back on
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about how historians will look back on
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this juncture and think about about how
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this juncture and think about about how
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we blew it uh that all the institutions
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we blew it uh that all the institutions
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we built after World War II the United
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we built after World War II the United
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Nations which has been
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Nations which has been
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incapacitated um and is not even a
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incapacitated um and is not even a
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player really in in these conflicts
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player really in in these conflicts
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doesn't have much credibility um
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doesn't have much credibility um
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whatever the good intentions of its
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whatever the good intentions of its
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leadership that that the ideas of um of
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leadership that that the ideas of um of
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diplomacy The Rules of Engagement and
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diplomacy The Rules of Engagement and
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warfare that a lot of this a lot of the
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warfare that a lot of this a lot of the
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rules the institutions the ideas
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rules the institutions the ideas
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established after World War II human
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established after World War II human
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rights declaration are all kind of Up in
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rights declaration are all kind of Up in
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Smoke and so I think that as we think
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Smoke and so I think that as we think
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about this war in a state the size of
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about this war in a state the size of
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what Delaware New Jersey against Gaza
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what Delaware New Jersey against Gaza
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which is the size of Philadelphia that
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which is the size of Philadelphia that
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this has Global repercussions in in all
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this has Global repercussions in in all
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kinds of
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ways all right uh now we have Steve
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ways all right uh now we have Steve
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zipperstein uh uh who was part of our uh
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zipperstein uh uh who was part of our uh
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team as the professor at UCLA and he
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team as the professor at UCLA and he
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asked the following question who are
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asked the following question who are
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other winners and losers in the region
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other winners and losers in the region
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and Beyond as a result of the October
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and Beyond as a result of the October
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7th Kama surprise attack on Israel
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7th Kama surprise attack on Israel
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either one of you want to try
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either one of you want to try
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that if you stopped to I'll take it just
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that if you stopped to I'll take it just
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a it's a sort of a flip comment if you
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a it's a sort of a flip comment if you
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stopped uh the clock today right
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stopped uh the clock today right
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now and you froze the status
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now and you froze the status
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quo I would say that uh
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quo I would say that uh
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Iran the access of resistance
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Iran the access of resistance
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Hamas
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um and one counterintuitive winner which
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um and one counterintuitive winner which
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would be Israeli
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would be Israeli
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democracy because the judicial overhaul
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democracy because the judicial overhaul
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has been buried I would argue
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has been buried I would argue
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permanently as a consequence of what
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permanently as a consequence of what
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happened it's a tragic horrific sequence
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happened it's a tragic horrific sequence
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of events but I think
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of events but I think
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that may actually be I hate even to use
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that may actually be I hate even to use
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the word I mean right now I see very
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the word I mean right now I see very
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little that is positive anywhere but if
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little that is positive anywhere but if
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you stop the clock now I think that
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you stop the clock now I think that
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um those would be the four
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um those would be the four
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winners I'd love to weigh in on that um
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winners I'd love to weigh in on that um
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I actually think there are no winners I
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I actually think there are no winners I
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think uh that you know Iran could lose
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think uh that you know Iran could lose
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its proxy in Hamas least short term it's
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its proxy in Hamas least short term it's
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invested a lot in funding and and Armory
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invested a lot in funding and and Armory
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and so forth um and it's lost that that
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and so forth um and it's lost that that
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potential Wing uh so I'm not sure that
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potential Wing uh so I'm not sure that
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it wins very much and Iran is under more
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it wins very much and Iran is under more
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scrutiny now than it has been a long
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scrutiny now than it has been a long
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time at a time that it you know is
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time at a time that it you know is
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joining bricks it's renewing relations
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joining bricks it's renewing relations
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it's trying to be a you know get some
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it's trying to be a you know get some
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recognition as a legitimate State
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recognition as a legitimate State
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instead of being a constant Pariah I
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instead of being a constant Pariah I
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think the big winner out of all of this
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think the big winner out of all of this
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when we look at it historically will be
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when we look at it historically will be
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China looking at the United States
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China looking at the United States
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deploying its warships in the Eastern
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deploying its warships in the Eastern
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Mediterranean uh you know providing arms
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Mediterranean uh you know providing arms
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to Israel and Ukraine and paying less
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to Israel and Ukraine and paying less
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attention to what China feels free to do
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attention to what China feels free to do
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whatever it wants you know um and so
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whatever it wants you know um and so
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again let's I want to think of this in a
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again let's I want to think of this in a
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global context not just the region where
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global context not just the region where
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I actually think there are no winners I
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I actually think there are no winners I
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think Israel is going to pay a huge
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think Israel is going to pay a huge
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price uh the Palestinians are clearly
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price uh the Palestinians are clearly
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going to pay a big price I think there
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going to pay a big price I think there
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are uh the the governments that have
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are uh the the governments that have
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tried to make peace with Israel are
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tried to make peace with Israel are
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going to find it very hard to to move
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going to find it very hard to to move
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forward or or do anything meaningful um
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forward or or do anything meaningful um
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the Saudi deal such as it possibly was
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the Saudi deal such as it possibly was
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is uh dead in the water for now I just
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is uh dead in the water for now I just
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you know I don't see anybody coming out
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you know I don't see anybody coming out
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of this in a traditional sense of real
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of this in a traditional sense of real
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winner okay uh Rema and I hope I've got
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winner okay uh Rema and I hope I've got
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this right scare of Tunisia do you think
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this right scare of Tunisia do you think
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the mass protests and advocacy efforts
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the mass protests and advocacy efforts
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worldwide in solidarity with Palestine
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worldwide in solidarity with Palestine
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but especially in Europe and North
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but especially in Europe and North
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America America will push for a
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America America will push for a
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ceasefire in
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ceasefire in
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Gaza either one of you well they push
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Gaza either one of you well they push
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for a ceasefire there's already calls at
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for a ceasefire there's already calls at
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the UN both the security Council and the
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the UN both the security Council and the
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general
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general
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assembly for a ceasefire I don't see a
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assembly for a ceasefire I don't see a
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ceasefire I see possibility the
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ceasefire I see possibility the
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Administration has raised the issue of
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Administration has raised the issue of
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humanitarian
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humanitarian
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causes that could happen if there was
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causes that could happen if there was
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a massive release of
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a massive release of
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hostages um but no you know United
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hostages um but no you know United
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States has a veto power and Security
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States has a veto power and Security
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Council UN General Assembly resolutions
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Council UN General Assembly resolutions
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don't carry the force of
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don't carry the force of
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imperatives so I I it's hard for me to
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imperatives so I I it's hard for me to
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see uh any formal any formal ceasefire
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see uh any formal any formal ceasefire
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kicking into place right now can I add
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kicking into place right now can I add
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one thought on the hostage issue because
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one thought on the hostage issue because
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it's one I've covered uh I covered the
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it's one I've covered uh I covered the
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take over the US Embassy in Le in in
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take over the US Embassy in Le in in
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Iran in 1979 and stood at the foot of
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Iran in 1979 and stood at the foot of
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the steps of the plane in Algeria when
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the steps of the plane in Algeria when
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they flew to Freedom and in Beirut when
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they flew to Freedom and in Beirut when
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hisbah was uh seizing dozens of
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hisbah was uh seizing dozens of
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Americans one of them being Terry
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Americans one of them being Terry
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Anderson who had the office next door to
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Anderson who had the office next door to
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mine and he was held chained to a
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mine and he was held chained to a
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radiator for seven years that I think
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radiator for seven years that I think
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the hostage drama May well uh drag on
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the hostage drama May well uh drag on
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long long long after the cessation of
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long long long after the cessation of
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hostilities that this is the largest
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hostilities that this is the largest
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leverage that the Hamas still has uh and
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leverage that the Hamas still has uh and
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will exact a big price uh I suspect it
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will exact a big price uh I suspect it
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may allow more women children elderly
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may allow more women children elderly
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out uh but I think it will keep many of
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out uh but I think it will keep many of
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the men and uh when we look back on the
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the men and uh when we look back on the
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last big prisoner exchange uh Israel
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last big prisoner exchange uh Israel
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took five years to get uh gilad shalat
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took five years to get uh gilad shalat
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Shalit out and in exchange for
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Shalit out and in exchange for
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1,27 Palestinian prisoners so the fact
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1,27 Palestinian prisoners so the fact
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that that Hamas has over 200 or is
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that that Hamas has over 200 or is
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believed to still have over 200 that
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believed to still have over 200 that
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gives it enormous leverage uh in
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gives it enormous leverage uh in
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exacting con different kinds of
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exacting con different kinds of
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concessions from Israel the human drama
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concessions from Israel the human drama
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adds enormous amount as we saw when
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adds enormous amount as we saw when
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Americans went through hostage ordeals
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Americans went through hostage ordeals
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and the yellow ribbon became as much a
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and the yellow ribbon became as much a
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symbol of America as apple pie and
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symbol of America as apple pie and
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baseball Steve can I just add a point to
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baseball Steve can I just add a point to
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that sure it's a cruel dilemma that the
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that sure it's a cruel dilemma that the
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government of Israel faes on one hand
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government of Israel faes on one hand
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they have a commitment to I'll use the
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they have a commitment to I'll use the
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word avenging but more more
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word avenging but more more
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proactively preventing anything like
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proactively preventing anything like
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what has happened to 1400 Israelis from
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what has happened to 1400 Israelis from
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ever happening again on one hand their
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ever happening again on one hand their
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commitment to the dead but on the other
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commitment to the dead but on the other
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hand they have a national priority a
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hand they have a national priority a
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mission and a commitment to the
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mission and a commitment to the
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living and when I refer to the living
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living and when I refer to the living
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here I'm talking about the 150 hostages
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here I'm talking about the 150 hostages
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this is not an am strictly or mostly
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this is not an am strictly or mostly
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American story Story I mean there are 10
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American story Story I mean there are 10
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Americans unaccounted for H whether or
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Americans unaccounted for H whether or
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not and here's where the opacity the
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not and here's where the opacity the
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opaqueness of the hostage isue kicks in
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opaqueness of the hostage isue kicks in
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we have no good sense the administration
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we have no good sense the administration
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May the Israelis may have more details
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May the Israelis may have more details
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on this but how does any
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on this but how does any
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government make a
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government make a
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choice I think that the fate of the
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choice I think that the fate of the
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hostage is once the ground campaign
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hostage is once the ground campaign
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begins and if it is true and there have
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begins and if it is true and there have
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been reports that individual
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been reports that individual
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Palestinians Andor
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Palestinians Andor
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families have
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families have
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hostages Israelis drop leaflets over the
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hostages Israelis drop leaflets over the
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last several days offering Financial
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last several days offering Financial
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rewards to Palestinians who would
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rewards to Palestinians who would
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provide information on where the
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provide information on where the
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hostages are located I can't believe
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hostages are located I can't believe
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they would have dropped those
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they would have dropped those
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leaflets if they didn't have some sense
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leaflets if they didn't have some sense
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that Hamas and P palan Islamic Jihad
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that Hamas and P palan Islamic Jihad
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don't have control over all of the
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don't have control over all of the
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hostages I I think their situation
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hostages I I think their situation
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becomes increasingly
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becomes increasingly
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fraud uh once an Israeli operation
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fraud uh once an Israeli operation
begins
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begins
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begins
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uh duana Alexander of the UC Office of
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uh duana Alexander of the UC Office of
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the
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President uh is the US really uh
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President uh is the US really uh
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president of the universities uh in
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president of the universities uh in
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California uh uh the major universities
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California uh uh the major universities
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is the US really pro-israel and Arab
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is the US really pro-israel and Arab
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solidarity plus Arab solidarity does the
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solidarity plus Arab solidarity does the
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US really want stronger Israel do they
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US really want stronger Israel do they
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at the same time try to keep them down
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at the same time try to keep them down
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just as much as supporting
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just as much as supporting
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them I I I turn over to Aon on this
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them I I I turn over to Aon on this
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one I have no I have no problem
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one I have no I have no problem
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answering this question if the question
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answering this question if the question
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is the United States
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is the United States
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pro-israel I didn't really catch the
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pro-israel I didn't really catch the
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other um the other part of the question
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other um the other part of the question
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is the US is really pro-israel plus Arab
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is the US is really pro-israel plus Arab
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solidarity does the US really want
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solidarity does the US really want
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stronger Israel do they at the same time
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stronger Israel do they at the same time
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try to keep them down just as much as
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try to keep them down just as much as
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supporting
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supporting
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them keep who
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them keep who
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down I me it's it's not I with all due
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down I me it's it's not I with all due
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respect to the questioner so it's a tad
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respect to the questioner so it's a tad
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confusing look I think that if if
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confusing look I think that if if
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someone said to me um on October 6 how
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someone said to me um on October 6 how
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do you think the administration would
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do you think the administration would
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react in the event Hamas uh brutally and
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react in the event Hamas uh brutally and
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savagely uh and indiscriminately
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savagely uh and indiscriminately
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uh killed 1400 Israelis including 260 at
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uh killed 1400 Israelis including 260 at
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the
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the
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Nova uh music festival which now stands
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Nova uh music festival which now stands
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as the largest single concert
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as the largest single concert
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catastrophe uh passing the
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catastrophe uh passing the
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baklan uh Paris concert which 130 people
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baklan uh Paris concert which 130 people
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were killed 260 Israelis were were shot
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were killed 260 Israelis were were shot
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and
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and
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murdered I would have said the
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murdered I would have said the
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administration would
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administration would
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react in a very pro-israel manner one
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react in a very pro-israel manner one
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because of the brutality and and
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because of the brutality and and
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Slaughter of October 7 two because you
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Slaughter of October 7 two because you
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have an American president and the
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have an American president and the
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presidential model here is not Barack
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presidential model here is not Barack
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Obama it's Bill
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Obama it's Bill
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Clinton they're a generation part but
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Clinton they're a generation part but
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their views on Israel are incredibly
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their views on Israel are incredibly
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similar both believe for emotional and
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similar both believe for emotional and
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political reasons support for Israel is
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political reasons support for Israel is
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imprinted on their emotional and
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imprinted on their emotional and
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political
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political
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DNA uh and you saw that in the October
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DNA uh and you saw that in the October
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10 speech that Biden gave which is one
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10 speech that Biden gave which is one
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of the most powerful of his presiden you
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of the most powerful of his presiden you
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saw that in the visit and the
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saw that in the visit and the
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unmistakable signal that the
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unmistakable signal that the
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administration sent initially was was
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administration sent initially was was
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we're going to give the Israelis the
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we're going to give the Israelis the
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time the space and the support to do
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time the space and the support to do
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what they think they need to do with
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what they think they need to do with
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respect to Hamas and Gaza now that frame
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respect to Hamas and Gaza now that frame
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has begun to evolve over the course of
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has begun to evolve over the course of
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the last two weeks in response to the
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the last two weeks in response to the
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humanitarian
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humanitarian
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catastrophe that is continuing to occur
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catastrophe that is continuing to occur
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in Gaza the deaths of thousands of
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in Gaza the deaths of thousands of
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Palestinians and and the
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Palestinians and and the
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destruction as a consequence of an
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destruction as a consequence of an
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Israeli blockade and Israeli air strikes
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Israeli blockade and Israeli air strikes
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designed to pressure Hamas and to uh
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designed to pressure Hamas and to uh
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presumably pave the way for an Israeli
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presumably pave the way for an Israeli
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ground campaign that's one factor second
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ground campaign that's one factor second
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the hostages the Administration has
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the hostages the Administration has
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bought time and space from the Israelis
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bought time and space from the Israelis
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to uh allow possible negotiations to
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to uh allow possible negotiations to
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free more and three I think the
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free more and three I think the
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administration they sent a three star
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administration they sent a three star
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general with experience in counter
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general with experience in counter
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Insurgency which is frankly fascinating
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Insurgency which is frankly fascinating
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to me they are intimately now involved
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to me they are intimately now involved
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and at least raising
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and at least raising
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questions uh on what the Israelis intend
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questions uh on what the Israelis intend
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to do do they have the means at their
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to do do they have the means at their
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disposal to do it and more important
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disposal to do it and more important
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what about the day after so I think the
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what about the day after so I think the
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administration's position has evolved
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administration's position has evolved
President
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President
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President
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yesterday uh made a fascinating comment
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yesterday uh made a fascinating comment
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warning in very strong terms about
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warning in very strong terms about
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Israeli settlers who were killing
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Israeli settlers who were killing
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Palestinians uh that was uh certainly in
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Palestinians uh that was uh certainly in
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response to an effort to broaden the
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response to an effort to broaden the
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frame to be sensitive more sensitive toh
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frame to be sensitive more sensitive toh
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what is happening to Palestinians on the
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what is happening to Palestinians on the
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ground but on balance the answer to the
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ground but on balance the answer to the
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question is we are not an honest br ER
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question is we are not an honest br ER
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when it comes to these matters we have a
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when it comes to these matters we have a
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special relationship with Israel for any
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special relationship with Israel for any
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number of reasons and I think you saw
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number of reasons and I think you saw
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that reflected in the president's view
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that reflected in the president's view
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one one additional point the logic
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one one additional point the logic
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of um trying to get close to the
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of um trying to get close to the
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Israelis during a crisis to inspire
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Israelis during a crisis to inspire
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trust and
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trust and
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confidence uh by an American president
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confidence uh by an American president
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is presumably designed sometimes it
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is presumably designed sometimes it
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works sometimes it doesn't to be able to
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works sometimes it doesn't to be able to
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have additional leverage for the hard
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have additional leverage for the hard
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conversations and the tough
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conversations and the tough
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conversations that are certain to follow
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conversations that are certain to follow
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and I'm saying to you we haven't even
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and I'm saying to you we haven't even
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begun I think to encounter those tough
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begun I think to encounter those tough
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conversations they will come in the
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conversations they will come in the
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event the Israelis do in fact launch a a
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event the Israelis do in fact launch a a
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massive ground Campaign which they may
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massive ground Campaign which they may
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not at any rate it's my my
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not at any rate it's my my
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sense all right uh first of all I want
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sense all right uh first of all I want
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to say we're running out of time uh and
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to say we're running out of time uh and
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therefore we're not going to uh we've
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therefore we're not going to uh we've
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got a lot of we got a few questions left
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got a lot of we got a few questions left
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I'm trying to get them all in but we're
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I'm trying to get them all in but we're
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not going to accept uh more questions uh
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not going to accept uh more questions uh
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any longer you can let us know and we'll
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any longer you can let us know and we'll
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try to get them answered uh let's see
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try to get them answered uh let's see
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here we have Samir shawa from Gaza
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here we have Samir shawa from Gaza
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living in London with large large family
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living in London with large large family
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in Gaza there are many American
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in Gaza there are many American
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Palestinians gathered at Rafa Crossing
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Palestinians gathered at Rafa Crossing
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for two weeks trying to leave Gaza via
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for two weeks trying to leave Gaza via
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Egypt but the administration is unable
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Egypt but the administration is unable
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to find a solution for them would a
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to find a solution for them would a
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ground Invasion really destroy Kamas and
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ground Invasion really destroy Kamas and
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save the
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save the
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hostages either one of you want to start
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hostages either one of you want to start
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that I'd make a comment not on the
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that I'd make a comment not on the
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latter two points comment we have to go
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latter two points comment we have to go
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on anyway so let's make but on on on
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on anyway so let's make but on on on
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American citizens anywhere from four to
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American citizens anywhere from four to
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600 I do not this is where it's really
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600 I do not this is where it's really
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opaque I do not understand th those
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opaque I do not understand th those
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people are essentially hostage
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people are essentially hostage
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why why haven't they been able to leave
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why why haven't they been able to leave
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Rafa I I have no explanation for that uh
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Rafa I I have no explanation for that uh
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Tony blinkin two days ago said it was
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Tony blinkin two days ago said it was
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because Hamas was blocking them from
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because Hamas was blocking them from
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leaving I've heard reports that the
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leaving I've heard reports that the
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Egyptians are not uh because Hamas is
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Egyptians are not uh because Hamas is
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checking people through that Crossing
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checking people through that Crossing
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Egypt is literally
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Egypt is literally
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micromanaging any human that goes
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micromanaging any human that goes
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through that
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through that
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Crossing um I have no explanation but it
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Crossing um I have no explanation but it
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is a serious
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is a serious
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demonstration
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demonstration
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of actually I'm not sure what I because
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of actually I'm not sure what I because
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I can't understand why why those
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I can't understand why why those
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leave okay we've got uh Natalie Brill a
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leave okay we've got uh Natalie Brill a
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member of C ctj synagogue I assume it's
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member of C ctj synagogue I assume it's
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in Los Angeles I could be wrong don't
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in Los Angeles I could be wrong don't
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you think that getting rid of Kamas will
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you think that getting rid of Kamas will
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help the Palestinians as they are a
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help the Palestinians as they are a
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terrorist organization shouldn't we all
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terrorist organization shouldn't we all
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excuse me all hope that eliminating
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excuse me all hope that eliminating
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terrorism should be a goal to create a
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terrorism should be a goal to create a
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Palestinians uh I'll take that briefly
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Palestinians uh I'll take that briefly
look
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look
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look
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uh the United States pressed the
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uh the United States pressed the
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Palestinians to hold an election in 2006
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Palestinians to hold an election in 2006
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on the premise that they that or the
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on the premise that they that or the
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belief that fata would win and fat was
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belief that fata would win and fat was
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willing to engage with the Israelis and
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willing to engage with the Israelis and
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it turned out that the Palestinians were
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it turned out that the Palestinians were
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disillusioned with the corruption
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disillusioned with the corruption
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nepotism mismanagement of fata um felt
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nepotism mismanagement of fata um felt
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that they had not uh in 13 years managed
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that they had not uh in 13 years managed
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to make any progress on the Oslo Accords
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to make any progress on the Oslo Accords
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and a lot of them I covered that
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and a lot of them I covered that
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election I was on the ground and it was
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election I was on the ground and it was
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clear that Hamas was going to win uh and
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clear that Hamas was going to win uh and
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it and it did so uh and the irony is
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it and it did so uh and the irony is
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that Israel actually encouraged the
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that Israel actually encouraged the
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creation of an islamist alternative the
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creation of an islamist alternative the
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PLO back in the late 1980s because it
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PLO back in the late 1980s because it
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thought it's a religious movement not a
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thought it's a religious movement not a
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nationalist movement it was not going to
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nationalist movement it was not going to
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be a challenge and so both Israel and
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be a challenge and so both Israel and
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the United States uh bear some
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the United States uh bear some
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culpability for uh what what has become
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culpability for uh what what has become
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Hamas this is where sometimes you have
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Hamas this is where sometimes you have
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one intention as the United States did
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one intention as the United States did
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in Iraq and you something else happens
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in Iraq and you something else happens
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uh so yeah I think the majority of
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uh so yeah I think the majority of
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Palestinians may not support Hamas right
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Palestinians may not support Hamas right
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now the the polling that's been done uh
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now the the polling that's been done uh
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shows that that many still support the
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shows that that many still support the
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idea of some kind of resistance to
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idea of some kind of resistance to
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Israel because they're so angry that
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Israel because they're so angry that
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there has not been any agreement that
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there has not been any agreement that
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gives them de uh Freedom dignity and you
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gives them de uh Freedom dignity and you
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know ends the blockade that's gone on
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know ends the blockade that's gone on
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for more than a decade uh the the danger
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for more than a decade uh the the danger
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as I said earlier is you you don't kill
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as I said earlier is you you don't kill
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the idea of resistance even if you
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the idea of resistance even if you
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manage to kill many of the leaders um
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manage to kill many of the leaders um
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the Israelis assassinated the head of
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the Israelis assassinated the head of
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the founder of Islamic Jihad and you
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the founder of Islamic Jihad and you
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know it's been a major Factor believes
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know it's been a major Factor believes
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is believed a whole sum of the hostages
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is believed a whole sum of the hostages
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and um has engaged in its own clashes
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and um has engaged in its own clashes
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with uh Israel so you know this is where
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with uh Israel so you know this is where
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yes absolutely all none of it we should
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yes absolutely all none of it we should
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all reject all forms of terrorism uh the
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all reject all forms of terrorism uh the
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question is how do you find political
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question is how do you find political
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solutions to military confrontations and
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solutions to military confrontations and
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it always involves politics every major
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it always involves politics every major
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war has been ended formally because of
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war has been ended formally because of
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of Pol politics and diplomacy and that's
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of Pol politics and diplomacy and that's
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where we don't see both Aaron and I
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where we don't see both Aaron and I
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think we don't see how this plays out in
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think we don't see how this plays out in
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a way that um that achieves Israel's
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a way that um that achieves Israel's
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goals of peace and security and also
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goals of peace and security and also
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provides a solution for the Palestinians
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provides a solution for the Palestinians
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and you know there are two sides and two
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and you know there are two sides and two
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parties to a conflict
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parties to a conflict
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and and guns alone killing alone doesn't
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and and guns alone killing alone doesn't
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solve the
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solve the
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problem okay we move on could I just um
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problem okay we move on could I just um
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I the right I think was a great answer
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I the right I think was a great answer
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on Robin SP can I just make a public
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on Robin SP can I just make a public
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service announcement but it's also
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service announcement but it's also
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educational next Thursday at noon I'm
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educational next Thursday at noon I'm
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interviewing khil shikake who is my for
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interviewing khil shikake who is my for
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my money the preeminent Palestinian
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my money the preeminent Palestinian
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pollster and analist in these matters
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pollster and analist in these matters
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and the issue we're gonna unpack the
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and the issue we're gonna unpack the
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issue of Palestinian support for Hamas
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issue of Palestinian support for Hamas
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so I will send you an invite you can
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so I will send you an invite you can
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circulate it as as if if appropriate and
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circulate it as as if if appropriate and
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can I just point out something there I
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can I just point out something there I
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did a a book and I profiled
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did a a book and I profiled
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um khil and his brother and how one
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um khil and his brother and how one
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within one family you see two brothers
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within one family you see two brothers
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close growing up together uh take very
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close growing up together uh take very
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different paths khil is you know teaches
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different paths khil is you know teaches
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at brandise he engages actively with
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at brandise he engages actively with
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Jewish groups he was very involved with
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Jewish groups he was very involved with
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the the secret peace negotiations with
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the the secret peace negotiations with
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Israel back in the early 90s he is as
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Israel back in the early 90s he is as
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thoughtful as you will ever find on on
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thoughtful as you will ever find on on
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the issue of the Palestinians with data
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the issue of the Palestinians with data
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not just the kind of emotions but it was
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not just the kind of emotions but it was
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his brother
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his brother
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who founded Islamic
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who founded Islamic
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Jihad yeah and so this is again that
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Jihad yeah and so this is again that
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that it is how do you direct the energy
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that it is how do you direct the energy
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um of of a people uh in a way that they
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um of of a people uh in a way that they
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are willing to coexist with each other
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are willing to coexist with each other
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and that applies to both sides and one
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and that applies to both sides and one
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of them is a very close friend of
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of them is a very close friend of
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Israelis and the other one was was
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Israelis and the other one was was
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killed by the
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killed by the
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Israelis yes so amazing yes all rightman
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Israelis yes so amazing yes all rightman
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khabib from Sudan what are the
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khabib from Sudan what are the
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possibilities of building an
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possibilities of building an
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International Alliance including
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International Alliance including
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countries from the Arab world to fight
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countries from the Arab world to fight
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Hamas hisbah and other Iran elements to
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Hamas hisbah and other Iran elements to
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form the new Middle East if plausible
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form the new Middle East if plausible
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how successful would this IDE idea be
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how successful would this IDE idea be
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can we have a quick answer it was
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can we have a quick answer it was
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successful in terms of the uh
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successful in terms of the uh
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International Coalition to defeat da the
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International Coalition to defeat da the
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Islamic State um but an international
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Islamic State um but an international
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coalition to fight Hamas and Gaza
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coalition to fight Hamas and Gaza
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strikes me as a very bad idea and it it
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strikes me as a very bad idea and it it
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it's not feasible some sort of uh
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it's not feasible some sort of uh
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security Force might be part of the day
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security Force might be part of the day
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after which could be underwritten and
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after which could be underwritten and
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resourced by the International Community
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resourced by the International Community
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um but even that at this point is uh
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um but even that at this point is uh
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more Theory than than
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more Theory than than
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practice all right um we're trying to
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practice all right um we're trying to
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get so many uh in I'm going to ask two
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get so many uh in I'm going to ask two
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here that have been I've been very close
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here that have been I've been very close
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to the end we all understand the
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to the end we all understand the
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undivided supports that the US provides
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undivided supports that the US provides
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to Israel do you think it's wise if the
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to Israel do you think it's wise if the
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US forces get involved on the ground
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US forces get involved on the ground
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what implications will such a move cause
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what implications will such a move cause
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other fronts to join like uh Lebanon and
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other fronts to join like uh Lebanon and
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Iran and from MOA and AI from Morocco
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Iran and from MOA and AI from Morocco
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and old friend what will happen if
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and old friend what will happen if
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Israel invite invades Gaza how will
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Israel invite invades Gaza how will
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Hezbollah and Iran react is the
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Hezbollah and Iran react is the
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two-state solution still VI still viable
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two-state solution still VI still viable
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we can spend hours on this but let's try
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we can spend hours on this but let's try
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not
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to I think I answered the question about
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to I think I answered the question about
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what if the puts troops on the ground
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what if the puts troops on the ground
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the fact is they um may may may
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the fact is they um may may may
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demonstrate muscle symbolically but do
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demonstrate muscle symbolically but do
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they also become targets uh we have to
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they also become targets uh we have to
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be very wise about where we deploy under
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be very wise about where we deploy under
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what terms and uh understand what uh
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what terms and uh understand what uh
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types of actions will elicit us
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types of actions will elicit us
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intervention we need to be incredibly
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intervention we need to be incredibly
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careful we have a long history of
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careful we have a long history of
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intervening in the Middle East and
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intervening in the Middle East and
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failing time after time uh and leading
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failing time after time uh and leading
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to American deaths
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to American deaths
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too okay so do we we have a Aon do you
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too okay so do we we have a Aon do you
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have the other question two-state
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have the other question two-state
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solution even though the vast number of
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solution even though the vast number of
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humans many of whom I respect deeply
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humans many of whom I respect deeply
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believe that the two-state solution has
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believe that the two-state solution has
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gone the way of the
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gone the way of the
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dodo uh I still cling to the notion that
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dodo uh I still cling to the notion that
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it is the least bad solution to resolve
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it is the least bad solution to resolve
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this conflict because it is the only
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this conflict because it is the only
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solution that deals with the demographic
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solution that deals with the demographic
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religious and
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religious and
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political
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political
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uh roots of his conflict there is no
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uh roots of his conflict there is no
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precedent for two national groups
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precedent for two national groups
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competing for religious space and
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competing for religious space and
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territory to be
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territory to be
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housed either in a one-state reality
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housed either in a one-state reality
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controlled by Israel which is a
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controlled by Israel which is a
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prescription for ending unending
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prescription for ending unending
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conflict or violence or in some one
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conflict or violence or in some one
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state solution in which Israelis and
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state solution in which Israelis and
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Palestinians live
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Palestinians live
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happily ever after separation through
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happily ever after separation through
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negotiation in my judgment is the only
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negotiation in my judgment is the only
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way there is no alternative even if it
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way there is no alternative even if it
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ends up being a confederal structure
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ends up being a confederal structure
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separation through negotiation is the
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separation through negotiation is the
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only
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way uh to produce anything remotely
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way uh to produce anything remotely
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resembling a conflict ending
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resembling a conflict ending
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solution all right I have three
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solution all right I have three
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questions left I'm G to ask them all and
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questions left I'm G to ask them all and
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see what you can do because we're uh at
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see what you can do because we're uh at
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our uh and Antonio uh from Athens uh uh
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our uh and Antonio uh from Athens uh uh
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Greece also a close friend the situation
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Greece also a close friend the situation
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on the ground remains fast moving and
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on the ground remains fast moving and
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complex but once the Israel Kamas war
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complex but once the Israel Kamas war
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ends how feasible and realistic would it
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ends how feasible and realistic would it
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be to create a new road map for
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be to create a new road map for
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re-engaging Israel and Palestine in a
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re-engaging Israel and Palestine in a
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comprehensive peace process of friend
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comprehensive peace process of friend
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devars uh very close uh Mary Elaine
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devars uh very close uh Mary Elaine
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heglin from the USAA given the anger and
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heglin from the USAA given the anger and
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distress of Arab and Muslim nations do
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distress of Arab and Muslim nations do
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you think the attack on Palestinians oh
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you think the attack on Palestinians oh
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my will uh uh lead uh to World War III
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my will uh uh lead uh to World War III
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and uh I believe there was one other I
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and uh I believe there was one other I
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didn't ask Eric sar from the USA do you
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didn't ask Eric sar from the USA do you
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think Israel should have released all
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think Israel should have released all
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the glory pictures and videos so the
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the glory pictures and videos so the
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world would understand that just like
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world would understand that just like
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Nazi Germany nothing justify such
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Nazi Germany nothing justify such
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violence and Kamas cannot be allowed to
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violence and Kamas cannot be allowed to
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exist question mark lots of other
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exist question mark lots of other
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questions some were double people had
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questions some were double people had
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asked earlier I apologize if we uh
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asked earlier I apologize if we uh
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missed you but uh we did get most of you
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missed you but uh we did get most of you
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and now uh not so nice we ask uh our
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and now uh not so nice we ask uh our
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speakers to do what they can for the
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speakers to do what they can for the
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last three
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last three
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questions I'd say no on World War I a
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questions I'd say no on World War I a
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categoric
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categoric
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no uh on releasing pictures the Israelis
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no uh on releasing pictures the Israelis
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have already released a compilation of
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have already released a compilation of
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footage from Hamas head cams to foreign
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footage from Hamas head cams to foreign
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journalists I have not seen
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journalists I have not seen
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them uh but I think they underscore the
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them uh but I think they underscore the
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savagery and the brutal brutality and
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savagery and the brutal brutality and
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the intentional
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the intentional
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indiscriminate killing intentional and
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indiscriminate killing intentional and
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indiscriminate killing which crossed a
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indiscriminate killing which crossed a
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threshold um which will Echo for a very
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threshold um which will Echo for a very
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very long
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very long
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time and Robin do you have any thought
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time and Robin do you have any thought
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uh on not World War I because you don't
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uh on not World War I because you don't
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have this is one that involves the
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have this is one that involves the
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region you're not going to see Russia
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region you're not going to see Russia
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and China uh have play any major role so
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and China uh have play any major role so
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I I I don't think on that question I
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I I I don't think on that question I
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think uh you know this business of our
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think uh you know this business of our
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idea of having another road map I mean
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idea of having another road map I mean
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the road map has gone any number of road
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the road map has gone any number of road
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maps have gone no place that they really
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maps have gone no place that they really
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if there is some kind of movement it
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if there is some kind of movement it
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needs to be very Swift and not kind of
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needs to be very Swift and not kind of
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be a handshake and let's figure out the
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be a handshake and let's figure out the
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details later I don't think that's going
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details later I don't think that's going
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to work um uh you you need something
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to work um uh you you need something
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kind of this is cataclysmic in terms of
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kind of this is cataclysmic in terms of
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the the the
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the the the
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war and it needs some kind of huge
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war and it needs some kind of huge
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Dynamic tangible uh agreement or deal to
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Dynamic tangible uh agreement or deal to
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move forward and I don't see that coming
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move forward and I don't see that coming
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anytime soon alas on the pictures the
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anytime soon alas on the pictures the
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problem is the internet and U one of the
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problem is the internet and U one of the
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most you know it's it's it's beyond
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most you know it's it's it's beyond
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control and I've read already that
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control and I've read already that
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there's been a lot of misinformation
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there's been a lot of misinformation
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disinformation uh propaganda and um
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disinformation uh propaganda and um
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whether it's by both sides I you know I
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whether it's by both sides I you know I
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I don't know the numbers but I just seen
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I don't know the numbers but I just seen
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a lot of reporting on that uh that
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a lot of reporting on that uh that
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exploiting the the tragedies that are
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exploiting the the tragedies that are
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playing out on the ground uh and you
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playing out on the ground uh and you
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know I you don't
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know I you don't
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need I mean one picture alone can tell
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need I mean one picture alone can tell
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you how how awful this is
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you how how awful this is
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uh and so anyway I uh I hope that we can
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uh and so anyway I uh I hope that we can
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have another conversation on a more
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have another conversation on a more
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hopeful basis uh but we are at that
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hopeful basis uh but we are at that
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Turning Point um we talk about
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Turning Point um we talk about
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inflection points all the time but um
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inflection points all the time but um
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this is one that that affects everybody
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this is one that that affects everybody
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and and let's hope people react
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and and let's hope people react
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thoughtfully and um and look for
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thoughtfully and um and look for
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Solutions Alternatives that are tangible
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Solutions Alternatives that are tangible
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not just the vague idea of winning or
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not just the vague idea of winning or
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avenging um because that doesn't produce
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avenging um because that doesn't produce
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a tangible outcome for all of us just
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a tangible outcome for all of us just
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one additional point to add to Robin's
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one additional point to add to Robin's
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eloquent finish if I worry about one
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eloquent finish if I worry about one
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thing uh is the absence of leadership
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thing uh is the absence of leadership
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yeah anything that's going to happen
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yeah anything that's going to happen
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anything in a positive meaningful way
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anything in a positive meaningful way
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will depend on Israeli and Palestinian
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will depend on Israeli and Palestinian
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leaders who are not prisoners of their
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leaders who are not prisoners of their
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politics or their
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politics or their
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ideologies but who have invested in this
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ideologies but who have invested in this
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because they believe it is actually in
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because they believe it is actually in
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the best interest of their people it's
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the best interest of their people it's
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going to depend on American leadership
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going to depend on American leadership
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to stand up and adopt a an approach that
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to stand up and adopt a an approach that
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is perceived to be Equitable and durable
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is perceived to be Equitable and durable
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in terms of moving toward a solution but
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in terms of moving toward a solution but
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without leadership we're going to
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without leadership we're going to
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drift and we know what happens when we
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drift and we know what happens when we
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drift well I can't thank the two of you
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drift well I can't thank the two of you
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enough uh I knew you'd be the best of
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enough uh I knew you'd be the best of
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course and you are and it was and I hope
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course and you are and it was and I hope
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that everyone has a feeling for the
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that everyone has a feeling for the
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situation that it might not have had
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situation that it might not have had
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before the pluses and the minuses of
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before the pluses and the minuses of
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course and that's why they're so great
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course and that's why they're so great
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uh uh that that's why uh Aon and Robin
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uh uh that that's why uh Aon and Robin
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are so uh great because uh
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are so uh great because uh
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they understand the good and the bad uh
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they understand the good and the bad uh
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so thank you thank you thank you and
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so thank you thank you thank you and
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maybe we can talk about something
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maybe we can talk about something
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positive before long doesn't seem like
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positive before long doesn't seem like
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that right now but maybe I'm wrong but
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that right now but maybe I'm wrong but
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still we are all GNA fight for the good
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still we are all GNA fight for the good
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and that's why we are where we are and
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and that's why we are where we are and
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I'd like to thank our team for creating
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I'd like to thank our team for creating
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this opportunity for us to talk today
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this opportunity for us to talk today
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Manny Jad Salam mahajer Emily ble and
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Manny Jad Salam mahajer Emily ble and
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Lori Lee uh Seaman has quite a bit to
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Lori Lee uh Seaman has quite a bit to
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offer in the next few weeks please see
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offer in the next few weeks please see
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our screen for uh upcoming weekly
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our screen for uh upcoming weekly
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discussions in this Roundtable series we
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discussions in this Roundtable series we
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were so fortunate to have uh uh the very
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were so fortunate to have uh uh the very
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best with us for our uh opening but we
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best with us for our uh opening but we
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know the others uh that you see now will
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know the others uh that you see now will
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be uh important as well uh uh in ter in
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be uh important as well uh uh in ter in
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terms of our series on the Kamas attack
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terms of our series on the Kamas attack
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and its impact on the region uh if you
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and its impact on the region uh if you
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have not already joined our mailing list
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have not already joined our mailing list
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please add your name uh link is on the
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please add your name uh link is on the
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screen or send a message to us at CED
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screen or send a message to us at CED
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cmed international.
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cmed international.
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ucla.edu and so uh I hope to see you
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ucla.edu and so uh I hope to see you
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soon and let me say for all of us bye
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soon and let me say for all of us bye
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